EP03 - Between Two Bots with Dr. Marcell Vollmer
EP03 - Between Two Bots with Dr. Marcell Vollmer
Welcome back to Between Two Bots. This is the podcast Dan Turchin and I discuss the future of humanity, society, and government, as seen through the lens of your data, your privacy and the ethics of AI. Today’s guest is Dr. Marcell Vollmer, Partner and Director at BCG and advisor to C-Level Executives & Executive Teams on the full range of digital transformation.
Every week, we test the boundaries between AI ethics, data and ways humans coexist with machines. Tune in each week to learn from the experts who are on the frontlines defining how will work and live for the next century.
We sit today really at the confluence of what I'd call three trends. More automated decisions are being made on our behalf. They have a greater impact on our lives, and frustratingly, there's less transparency than ever, about what goes into the making of those decisions.
Speaker notes:
Dr. Marcell Vollmer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcellvollmer/
3 weekly articles:
Americans Need a Bill of Rights for an AI-Powered World - https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-bill-of-rights-artificial-intelligence/
Reboot AI with human values - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02693-2
Europe wants to champion human rights. So why doesn’t it police biased AI in recruiting? - https://sifted.eu/articles/europe-ai-bias-recruiting/
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Dr. Mark van Rijmenam
Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is The Digital Speaker, a world-leading futurist and global AI keynote speaker who helps leaders decide what AI, and the technologies that follow it, mean for their business. He speaks to leadership teams at their retreats and to conference audiences worldwide, and his WAVE framework gives them a way of deciding that they keep using long after he has left the room. His Intelligence Age Scorecard measures how ready an organization is across the four WAVE pillars.
He holds a PhD from the University of Technology Sydney, is a Certified Speaking Professional and Global Speaking Fellow, and ranks among the world’s top futurists on the Global Gurus list (#1 in 2025, #3 in 2026). Salesforce named him one of its 16 leading AI voices. He has written six books, most recently Now What? How to Ride the Tsunami of Change, writes the Synthetic Minds newsletter on Substack, and founded Futurwise. Talk to his digital twin on WhatsApp: +1 (830) 463-6967.
