EP05 - Between Two Bots with Gary Bolles

EP05 - Between Two Bots with Gary Bolles
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EP05 - Between Two Bots with Gary Bolles

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Welcome to the Between Two Bots podcast. In this podcast, we discuss the cultural, technological and ethical implications of artificial intelligence and AI-based decisions. A discussion that is so important to have as it affects us all. Especially now, that our relationship with machines is changing as we move from human to human, to human to machine, to machine to machine interactions. AI becomes more pervasive and has a bigger impact on how we live and how and the work that we do.

This week's guest is Gary Bolles. Gary leads Lead Singularity University's activities related to the shift to a digital work economy, helping individuals, organizations, and government agencies to navigate disruptive change. A frequent lecturer on the future of work and the future of learning, Gary is the author of "The Next Rules of Work".

Podcast notes:
Gary Bolles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbolles/

3 weekly articles:

  1. Mark Zuckerberg’s metaverse may be as privacy flawed as Facebook - https://fortune.com/2021/10/29/mark-zuckerberg-metaverse-privacy-facebook-meta/
  2. What we’re getting wrong about The Great Resignation - https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211028-what-were-getting-wrong-about-the-great-resignation
  3. AI and human rights - a different take on an old debate - https://diginomica.com/ai-and-human-rights-different-take-old-debate

Gary Bolles's book: The Next Rules of Work: https://amzn.to/3F12t5N

For more information visit https://BetweenTwoBots.com

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Dr. Mark van Rijmenam

Dr. Mark van Rijmenam

Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is The Digital Speaker, a world-leading futurist and global AI keynote speaker who helps leaders decide what AI, and the technologies that follow it, mean for their business. He speaks to leadership teams at their retreats and to conference audiences worldwide, and his WAVE framework gives them a way of deciding that they keep using long after he has left the room. His Intelligence Age Scorecard measures how ready an organization is across the four WAVE pillars.

He holds a PhD from the University of Technology Sydney, is a Certified Speaking Professional and Global Speaking Fellow, and ranks among the world’s top futurists on the Global Gurus list (#1 in 2025, #3 in 2026). Salesforce named him one of its 16 leading AI voices. He has written six books, most recently Now What? How to Ride the Tsunami of Change, writes the Synthetic Minds newsletter on Substack, and founded Futurwise. Talk to his digital twin on WhatsApp: +1 (830) 463-6967.

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